WWII military history book – “Parleying with the Devil” (University Press of Kentucky, 2020) – Gaj Trifkovic interview

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Gaj Trifkovic has had a lifelong interest in WWII especially as it relates to Yugoslavia. He earned his history degree in the subject and wrote his first book – a history of prisoner exchange in Yugoslavia during WWII. We spoke about the war in Yugoslavia, the book, and the process of getting published.

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0:51 – Gaj talks about how he got into studying Yugoslavia in WWII.

4:10 – Gaj talks about the five main sections of the book starting with Serbia.

6:25 – Gaj talk about the military activities and situation in Yugoslavia during WWI.

8:31 – Gaj talks about the controversial March 1943 negotiations.

12:06 – Gaj talks about the Yugoslav neutral zone.

13:08 – Gaj talks about how much the German high command knew about this prisoner exchange.

14:11 – Gaj talks about how partisans dealt with prisoner exchanges.

16:33 – Gaj talks about what prisoners the Germans took.

17:52 – Gaj talks about how prisoners chosen for exchange were sometimes treated harshly.

19:46 – Gaj talks about local prisoner exchanges by units in the field.

21:00 – Gaj talks about non-German Axis prisoners.

22:20 – Gaj talks about prisoner exchanges in other historical contexts.

24:46 – Gaj talks about how Hitler was convinced to accept these exchanges.

26:06 – Gaj talks about whether the Germans exchanged “undesirables.”

27:04 – Gaj talks about the unwritten rules of prisoner exchange.

29:20 – Gaj talks about prisoner exchange closer to the end of the war.

32:35 – Gaj talks about large-scale execution of prisoners at the end of the war.

34:26 – Gaj talks about German and Axis prisoners in Yugoslavia at the end of the war.

38:58 – Gaj talks about post-war release of prisoners.

40:45 – Gaj talks about the archives and books he used for this research.

42:27 – Gaj talks about the self-censorship on both sides about prisoner exchange.

45:55 – Gaj goes into more detail about the neutral zone.

47:11 – We discuss what might be in the current location of the neutral zone.

51:32 – Gaj talks about how well the two sides got along in the neutral zone.

55:14 – Gaj talks about why he wrote the book in English rather than German.

57:38 – Gaj talks about how he tried to emulate “The Longest Day” in the writing of this book.

1:04:59 – Gaj can be found on researchgate.net and academia.edu.

 

Links of interest

https://amzn.to/2A73z3E

https://www.kentuckypress.com/9781949668087/parleying-with-the-devil/

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gaj_Trifkovic

https://independent.academia.edu/GajTrifkovic

 

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WWII military history book – “A Satellite Empire” (Cornell University Press, 2019) – Vladimir Solonari interview

Dr. Vladimir Solonari is a history professor at the University of Central Florida. He has written extensively on ethnic cleansing in Romania during WWII and we discussed his latest book on Romanian occupation of Transnistria in Ukraine during WWII. Check out the book here.

0:45 – Vladimir talks about why he is writing about Romanian occupation of Ukraine during WWII.

2:43 – Vladimir talks about the geography of the Ukrainian region the book focuses on.

5:58 – Vladimir talks about German post-WWII plans for this Ukrainian region had Germany won the war. Romania was trying to get Transylvania back.

8:18 – Vladimir talks about how the progress of Operation Barbarossa affected Romanian strategic plans for this region.

12:19 – Vladimir talks about how Romanian troops were deployed around the Eastern Front and used.

14:42 – Vladimir talks about Romanian elite troops known as “mountain shooters”.

15:30 – Vladimir talks about Romanian policing of the Transnistria region. He discusses Soviet created terrorist groups used to harass the Romanians. He also discusses local partisan groups.

22:35- Vladimir talks about how Romania conducted ethnic cleansing of Jews, Roma, Ukrainians, Bulgarians, and Hungarians and moved them to Transnistria. He also discusses how typhus spread through the camps.

27:05 – Vladimir talks about whether the Romanians used specialized troops to massacre ethnic prisoners.

29:55 – Vladimir talks about how some Romanian officers opposed ethnic cleansing. Ethnic German villages were willing to conduct ethnic cleansing in this region.

33:30 – Vladimir talks about how Romania wanted to show its power on the world stage and to Europe.

36:30 – Vladimir talks about German perceptions of Eastern Europe as an empty space that needed order.

38:07 – Vladimir talks about the archives he used for his research.

39:31 – Vladimir relates a story about an aspiring composer in Odessa who was living a double life and pining over a lost love.

46:05 – Vladimir talks about how the Romanian government withdrew their approval for him to use certain photographs in his book.

47:46 – Vladimir talks about visiting a museum and the catacombs of Odessa.

57:14 – Vladimir talks about the complexity of the whole situation.

59:58 – Vladimir tried to determine how much the German and Romanian occupation attitudes depended on racist ideas.

1:07:30 – Vladimir talks about the legalities that the Romanians applied to conducting their ethnic cleansing.

Links of interest

Check out the book here.

https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501743184/a-satellite-empire/

https://history.cah.ucf.edu/faculty-staff/?id=318

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