US Civil War – Rebels in the Making (Oxford University Press, 2020) – William Barney interview

American Civil War – An interview with William Barney about his new book Rebels in the Making, published by Oxford University Press, on Southern secession in 1860 to 1861. Check out the book here   https://amzn.to/30aBXVl

How did you become interested in studying and writing on the subject of your book?

I first became interested in the American Civil War after reading Bruce Catton during high school. I latched on to secession as a research topic in my years of professional training at Columbia University in the 1960s and always wanted to write a major work on the topic.

What is the book about and what major themes do you focus on?

Rebels in the Making focuses on the years of 1860-1861 when the secession movement climaxed and triggered the Civil War. I found that any persuasive explanation of the politics of secession necessitated placing the drive for secession in the social, economic, and cultural context of the slave South as it matured in the 1850s and constricted opportunities for common whites in acquiring slaves and good land. The need to protect slavery where it existed and leave open the possibility of its future expansion was the main motivating force behind secession. This was the core argument used to attract the support of younger slaveholders aspiring to attain planter status. In presenting my findings, I examined secession, and its success or failure, in all of the fifteen slave states and traced how the vision of the secessionists for the South was embodied in the crafting the constitution and government for the Confederate States of America.

What resource materials or archives did you primarily use for your research?

I cast as wide a net as possible in locating resource material – letters, diaries and journals; slave narratives; court records; contemporary periodicals and newspapers; and legislative proceedings and debates.

What did you discover in your research that most surprised you?

What most surprised me was the extent and depth of the economic depression that gripped the South once credit lines from the North were largely shut down in the financial freeze that accompanied Lincoln’s election. Most economic activity ground to a halt and the ensuing sense of desperation added fuel to the argument of the secessionists that the South had to liberate itself from the financial shackles of the North.

Why did the North shut down the credit lines for the South and what about Lincoln’s election prompted this action? Were there Southern states that were hit particularly harder by this credit crunch than others?

Capital abhors uncertainty and everyone foresaw a major political crisis in the event of Lincoln’s election. Consequently, Northern banks and mercantile houses sought to preserve capital and prevent bankruptcies by tightening or refusing to extend the credit (technically discounting the notes of indebtedness) to Southern factors and planters that was necessary to move cotton to market. The economic crisis was a national one because of uncertainty over whether Southern markets would remain open to Northern merchants and farmers. All states were affected, though the shutdown was probably the deepest in the cash-starved Cotton South.

Was there a particularly difficult issue to research because of lack of information or access to information?

The hardest part of the story to tell was the role played by the slaves, over forty percent of the population in the seven original states that seceded. Slaves, unsurprisingly, left very few first-hand accounts of their feelings or actions and their reaction to the crisis in large measure had to be inferred by what whites wrote of what they thought the slaves were up to. I argue that the slaves were well aware that their day of deliverance was about to come and that they exploited the unrest and excitement in the South in 1860 by setting a rash of fires that further unnerved whites into believing that only a clean break from the North could save them from what they convinced themselves were hordes of abolitionist incendiaries descending on the South and stirring up the slaves.

When you say that Southern slaves started a rash of fires, can you explain that in a little more detail?

Southern newspapers reported an outbreak of fires that began in the spring of 1860 and peaked in the late summer and fall. The fires were attributed to abolitionist emissaries and slaves. The fires destroyed many businesses and some private homes. Most of them, and those almost certainly set by plantation slaves, torched highly combustible cotton gins and the cotton stored therein. The fires were set at night in isolated areas where it was extremely difficult to identify the perpetrators.

Did you have any difficulties in finishing or publishing and how did you overcome those?

Fortunately, the only hurdle in the writing of Rebels was carving out the time for framing and detailing the argument. As in the past, Oxford University Press was an understanding and helpful publisher. The comments and advice of Editor Susan Ferber were all I could have hoped for.

What is your current or next writing project?

I’m currently plunging into a new topic, the nature and extent of Confederate nationalism and the interpretive folly of conflating it with the Confederate state.

Where can people find you online?

I can be found at the website for the Department of History, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. My email is: wbarney@email.unc.edu.

Links of interest

Check out the book here   https://amzn.to/30aBXVl

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/rebels-in-the-making-9780190076085

https://history.unc.edu/faculty-members/william-l-barney/

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Maritime and naval history – “Whaling Captains of Color” (Naval Institute Press, 2020) – Skip Finley interview

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Skip Finley spent many years in the radio broadcasting business. He developed a passion for the study of whaling captains and wrote a book on whaling captains of color. This is his first non-fiction book and we spoke about the book and the writing process.

1:06 – Skip talks about how he got into writing on whaling captains.

2:49 – Skip talks about whaling.

5:55 – Skip talks about whaling and the American Revolution.

8:34 – Skip talks about whaling captains impacted by the Revolution.

9:46 – Skip talks about where the British kept prisoners during the American Revolution.

12:10 – Skip talks about the US Civil War how easy it was for the South to destroy whalers.

14:22 – Skip talks about what Confederates did with black whalers they caught.

14:54 – Skip talks about an encounter between a whaler and a German submarine in WWI.

18:38 – Skip talks about whaling between the American Revolution and the US Civil War.

22:34 – Skip talks about where the whaling industry was centered.

25:04 – Skip talks about doing the research for the book.

35:33 – Skip talks about the connection between Navy duty and whaling duty.

38:12 – Skip talks about John Mashall and the types of ships he designed.

39:39 – Skip goes into more detail about the books he used for his research.

43:40 – Skip talks about how one became a whaling captain.

45:24 – Skip talks about how important Nantucket and whaling was to black freedom.

58:33- Skip can be found at skipfinley.com

 

Links of interest

https://amzn.to/2zxBjGZ

https://www.usni.org/press/books/whaling-captains-color

https://www.skipfinley.com/

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Guests: Skip Finley

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18th Century warfare history book – “The Occupation of Havana” (University of North Carolina Press, 2018) – Elena Schneider interview

Dr. Elena Schneider is a historian who specializes in Latin America, the Caribbean, and the Atlantic World. She teaches at the University of California, Berkley and we spoke about her latest book on the British capture of Havana in the 18th century.

0:53 – Elena talks about how she got into studying the year-long British occupation of Havana.

3:30 – Elena talks about how she arranged the book.  There were many participants in this event from across the world.

5:20 – Elena mentions British celebrations in London when they heard of the capture of Havana.

7:41 – The occupation took place from summer 1762 to June 1763.

12:01 – Elena talks about the effect on the silver train and the Spanish Navy during this occupation.

16:45 – The War of Jenkins’ Ear prepared the British for this attack. They learned the importance of preparing for yellow fever.

21:00 – Elena talks about the large number of American colonists who died during this attack.

22:04 – Elena touches on how the British navy was affected by capturing so many Spanish ships.

23:52 – Elena talks about the effect American deaths had on American politics.

27:36 – Elena talks about how Cubans dealt with the British presence.

29:56 – Half of the population of Havan at the time was black.

33:24 – Elena talks about the archives she visited for this research.

36:13 – Elena talks about some of the art associated with this event.

44:20 – Elena talks about the companies of black soldiers on both sides of the fighting.

57:24 – Elena has a post on the Age of Revolutions webpage.

Links of interest

https://history.berkeley.edu/elena-schneider
https://ageofrevolutions.com/

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