Ugur Ungor discusses paramilitaries in his military history book Paramilitarism (Oxford University Press, 2020)

 

Ugur Ungor discusses paramilitarism
Ugur Ungar Paramilitarism

Ugur Ungor discusses Paramilitarism

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Interview Summary

Ugur Umit Ungor is a professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and has researched paramilitarism for years and has recently published a book on the topic. We discussed the book and the various paramilitaries that have formed in the twentieth century and the problems they have caused both for their victims and for the states that have created them.

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0:42 – Ugur talks about how he started writing about paramilitary groups.

2:47 – Ugur talks about the regions and time periods the book covers.

0:41 – Ugur talks about how he started writing about paramilitary groups.

2:42 – Ugur talks about the regions and time periods the book covers.

5:18 – Ugur talks about what paramilitarism is and their relationship to states.

7:31 – Ugur talks about the ties between organized crime, paramilitaries, and states.

11:05 – Ugur talks about the extent that authoritarian regimes use paramilitaries.

14:07 – Ugur talks about being surprised that Stalin didn’t use paramilitaries.

15:28 – Ugur talks about being surprised that Indonesia used paramilitaries in the 1960s.

16:24 – Ugur talks about the internal structures and development of these groups.

18:34 – Ugur talks about paramilitary groups who fought outside of their countries.

20:38 – Ugur talks about why these groups are considered military rather than para police 23:50 – Ugur talks about how many military and law enforcement men were in paramilitary groups too.

26:09 – Ugur talks about insurgencies and the creation of paramilitaries.

29:58 – Ugur talks about the popularity of these groups in some parts of their society.

34:06 – Ugur talks about how most of the victims of paramilitaries were poor people.

36:19 – Ugur talks about the violent methods the paramilitaries used.

38:06 – Ugur talks about paramilitary membership.

40:48 – Ugur talks about the dangers or lack of that these paramilitaries faced.

42:22 – Ugur talks about how states disbanded paramilitary groups.

46:30 – Ugur talks about the power of the state over its paramilitaries.

47:55 – Ugur talks about how paramilitaries gain political and social status they didn’t have before.

48:24 – Ugur talks about the Syrian paramilitaries being the most violent he came across.

50:52 – Ugur talks about globalism and paramilitaries.

53:39 – Ugur talks about how he did his research.

56:05 – Ugur talks being surprised about how much paramilitaries figured in US history.

58:19 – Ugur talks about paramilitary false flag operations in Ireland.

1:00:39 – Ugur talks about wanting to know more about Slobodan Milosevic and his connection with paramilitaries.  He also talks about a November 1996 car crash in Turkey that involved a Turkish parliamentarian and Kurdish, the head of the Turkish police, and the top mob boss in Turkey at the time.

1:04:14 – Ugur talks about how these paramilitaries affect public perception of their governments and violence.

1:09:18 – Ugur is at Ungor.nl and on twitter @ugurumitungor.

Links of interest

https://amzn.to/3ivil4q

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/paramilitarism-9780198825241?cc=us&lang=en&

https://www.niod.nl/en/staff/ugur-%c3%bcng%c3%b6r

https://twitter.com/ugur_umit_ungor

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Guests: Ugur Umit Ungor

Host: Cris Alvarez

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Brian Herskowitz talks about the Vietnam War show Tour of Duty

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Interview Summary

Brian Herskowitz has been a screenwriter for years and has taught the subject too. When he first started in Hollywood, one of his first assignments was working on the popular Vietnam War show “Tour of Duty” which ran from 1987-1990. He became a producer and writer on the show. He’s also written other screenplays, done some acting, and has worked in the entertainment industry for years. We talked about the show, the show’s approach to history, veterans, screenwriting, and about his screenwriting book “Process to Product”.

1:04 – Brian talks about how he got involved with the show Tour of Duty. (Note: I stated his screenwriting book was published in 2019 but it was published in 2014.)

2:48 – Brian talks about how the show progressed and dealt with real issues.

7:56 – Brian talks about the historical consultants and approach to authenticity of the show.

13:26 – Brian talks about the mail the show got from veterans.

14:31 – Brian talks about why the show was cancelled and China Beach.

17:57 – Brian talks about the chemistry of the characters.

20:21 – Brian talks about the approach to the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in the show.

25:29 – Brian talks about the characters of Zeke and Lt Goldman.

26:09 – Brian talks about audience response to episodes where the US sometimes doesn’t get put in a positive light.

29:49 – Brian talks about Steve Philip Smith, a veteran who was an executive producer on the show.

32:31 – Brian talks about how the actors stepped back in time from the 80s to the late 60s.

34:33 – Brian talks about the environment in the 80s for Vietnam War stories.

38:25 – Brian talks about Magnum PI and its connection to the Vietnam War.

40:34 – Brian talks about people who had trouble with the show’s subject matter.

43:42 – Brian talks about the interracial marriage story line in the show.

47:16 – Brian talks about the kinds of stories that wrote for the show.

49:47 – Brian talks about censorship and the deaths of children and drug use in the show.

51:36 – Brian talks about changes in the use of violence in movies and shows.

56:10 – Brian talks about video games and we discuss how troops play military video games.

1:02:15 – Brian talks about veterans writing screenplays.

1:08:14 – We discuss the movie “Taking Chance.”

1:10:56 – Brian can be found at brianherskowitz.com.

1:12:09 – Brian discusses a few more details about the show Tour of Duty.

Links of interest

https://amzn.to/3aD11YZ

https://amzn.to/2PUQNJG

https://www.brianherskowitz.com/

Contact Information

For more “Military History Inside Out” please follow me at www.warscholar.org, on Facebook at warscholar, on twitter at Warscholar, on youtube at warscholar1945 and on Instagram @crisalvarezswarscholar. Or subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify

Guests: Brian Herskowitz

Host: Cris Alvarez

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